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TI - Traders Incompetent

I joined TI back in about 2007 and red flags started almost immediately. I was full of gusto keen to make some money and create a better life for myself but also knew that I had to go through due process and complete the course and paper trade successfully before giving the big show a go. Everything went well in simulation and looked promising. As soon as I went live it was a completely different ball game. The numbers simply didn't add up. The signs were there but the profitability was not the reality that was sold to me. I made some money here and there but for the most part it just cost money - a lot of money. And it wasnt just me, it was 95% of the people in the trading room. No one made a living from this system! I remember my salesman even said that I can have his commission(of $1,000) if it didn't work out for me. This wasnt the deciding factor in me giving TI a go but it was a 'salesman's' line, and I should have known better. By the way that salesman was Lachlan. I believe he is running the show now. One of the other sales-lines was that "you are a lifetime member". To that, I contacted TI to see if I could simply see if anything had changed, what the latest teachings were and to simply touch base - I was told that my membership was no longer valid and I would have to join again. This is a poorly run sleazy operation. The way they make money is through membership fees - NOT through any stock market knowledge or expertise. If you want to get in the market read a few books, blend technical and fundamental analysis and paper trade. Once you are comfortable with your methodology start trading live - but SMALL. Increase your outlay proportionate to your successes. TI is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.
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#1775191

Yeah.... Not very good.

A good way to lose money to them, but making money in trading? Forget it.

#1500907

could you please investigate Kayafx.com i put the money on 250 and they didnt back my money ..

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#997417 Review #997417 is a subjective opinion of poster.
Reason of review
Not as described/ advertised

Regretful purchase

I paid from memory $7, 850. And thinking about it makes me so angry and upset. I spent under $150 on books last year reading about the stock market and they've proved to be far better. I got sucked into the idea that paying a lot of money means you're getting something high quality and unfortunately traders international are exploiting that very psychology by charging you a *** tonne of money. Regretful purchase. I hope these people get *** over
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#764146 Review #764146 is a subjective opinion of poster.
Location
Melbourne, Victoria
Reason of review
Bad quality
Loss
$7850

Traders International - scam artists

I have posted my list of complaints and my story with traders international at length on another site. If you do a search on google for traders international you will see my post on mypivots.com. The short version is that I lost a lot of money with this scam of a company on top of the 10k they charged for their substandard service. The only thing these guys are experts at is scamming. When I signed up with them...and the only reason I signed up with them was because they promised clear entry and exit signals. They did anything but do that. It was a joke. The people they hire are by no means experts at trading. They are good at bs'ing and making you believe that their "proprietary singnals" are the key to their trading and your success. Its hog wash. They using lagging indicators that you can make on your own. They have no clue of the underlying workings of the market. You have been warned.
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#1145489

Too bad for you. You're the one who entered the trades on your own behalf.

The problem is the double bottom/ double tops don't work unless the volume switching the direction, is LOW, not high dummies. then the reversal follows thru to your 4 points or whatever scalp you do. be carefull of those double bottoms .

They're bull and bear traps. We used to call it a "W" just put buy stops and sell stops up and down from the top and bottom of that pattern.

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#496330 Review #496330 is a subjective opinion of poster.
Location
Houston, Texas
Loss
$21400

TI is what it is

I just wanted to share a few experiences i had with TI. First off i was trading stocks for a time and wanted to get into the futures market. TI was my first experience with futures trading. They did there job. They taught me what i needed to get involved with the emini's. I learned entry techniques and exits. I learned to read the market and i got a lot of good experience in the market following rich in the live classes. I learned a ton of real time lessons which i took into my trading. Its up to you to find your niche in the markets and to learn how to trade trade successfully TI was a great start for me. I dont regret one bit the experience i learned there. And one last thing. I would say about the mod rich. When i was there i would have to say that he did his very best to teach and share his knowledge. Rich is a humble honest guy who deserves respect. Its not his job to tell you what trades to take and thats something you have to learn on your own
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#486730 Review #486730 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Encinitas, California
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WARNING !!! My name falsely used. Shame

WARNING !!! My name falsely used. Shame, Shame, Shame THE FALSE USE OF YOUR GOOD NAME CAN HAPPEN TO YOU AS IT DID TO ME ON THIS SITE The entry dated October 14, 2012 From Melbourne, Victoria, AU, was NOT submitted by me. That entry is a FABRICATION by a bitter and twisted individual. Martin John Kennedy is a friend of Lachlan Elsworthy and therefore has no cause to perpetrate these FALSE ACCUSATIONS. The ASIC complaint number is fictitious. Therefore, any sensible person would use http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/ as a LEGITAMATE forum for TRUTH and also SCAMS. Please note: there is NO reference to Traders International in either category. So please check out Facts and Truth before accepting everything that has been written on this unregulated and therefore offensive site. How irresponsible can the operators of this site be?
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#568153

Martin, I appreciate your comment. As I say to all TI traders, on the rare occasion a trader has an issue, please call the office immediately and ask for coaching - it is free!

All new members know they can come to the office and sit beside me while I trade my own personal money in front of them. I do not think we can get any more transparent than that! Thanks again for your comment.

It is amazing the length some people go to (in this case using false names) to try and discredit a company and the passionate people who run it! Lachlan Elsworth :)

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@PissedConsumer568153

People are telling the truth about you Lachlan Elsworth because you again completely believe in your stories that you know about trading and that you are genuine educator ... but you are not that is the fact .

You learn the tricks and deceptions from Peter Elsworth and Andrew Barnett and that is the truth and nothing else don't pretend with this "amazing length" quote to hide behind your deceptiveness and being a simple liar .

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#355695 Review #355695 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Melbourne, Victoria
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Great Experience With Traders International

I have been a happy Traders International member for over three years now. My experience with Traders International has been very positive and nothing short of life changing. In the time I have spent with them I have learned to become a very successful trader. They have taught me things that I would have never learned on my own. Before joining TI I was a very average trader who quite frankly had no "real" idea what I was doing. I lost many thousands of dollars trading on my own learning from books and the Internet. After quite a few years of frustration I decided to look for a trading service that could give me some guidance and help me become a consistently profitable trader. After a lot of research I decided to join Traders International. It is a decision I have never regretted as they have helped me become consistently profitable with my trading. If you are new/newer to the world of trading, Traders International can truly accelerate your learning curve by providing its members with the education, support and hands on learning in the live market trading room. You simply cannot replace having a professional trader explain to you why or why not a trade setup is a good one or not. I CANNOT overemphasize this point! The ecourse TI offers is comprehensive and covers many important trading topics in a user friendly step-by-step online video format. Along with the videos TI provides their members with support that is truly 2nd to none! The live online support classes are provided four days a week to answer all of your questions. The moderators in the TI trading room are always friendly, informative and above all provide their members with successful trade calls day after day. They thoughtfully explain why they are calling a trade and what makes the trade setup a good one. They will also explain when not to take a trade based on market conditions as well. It's this "coaching" before, during and after a trade setup that sets TI apart from other trading companies. TI is always looking to improve their trading techniques and are constantly looking to keep up with changing market dynamics. What worked well last year might not necessarily work the next. This is what separates TI from a lot of other trading companies; their ability (resources) and willingness to change with the market! One of the biggest and most successful changes TI has ever made to their trading program is changing from all "Indicator" based trading to "Price Action" based trading. Trading off of price action has absolutely been the most important change I have ever made to my trading style…and I have TI to thank for that! Is trading for everyone, absolutely not! Patience & discipline are an absolute must! I didn't have either when I first started but TI taught me how important these two personal attributes are. TI has taught me to spot and take high probability trade setups which have resulted in many more winning trades then losing ones. Using the trading knowledge I have gained from TI, I now consistently average a 70-75% trading success rate. In the end I would highly recommend Traders International to anyone who would like to become a successful trader. If you are newer to the world of trading the ecourse, training and support are absolutely the best you are going to find anywhere, period! If you are an experienced trader looking to become a much more consistently profitable trader then TI is the place to be!
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#1552576

This comment is biased, maybe from their employees. I had the same problem with them. What they teach and practice with fake money in their teaching rooms does not happen when you trade your own real money.

#723386

What Mr money maker said in a previous comment. You should only rely on honest reviews from sites that are dedicated to delivering them.

Not some random consumer... maybe only if there are hundreds of reviews from consumers i would start to believe an average of those.

#604721

I think you work with TI to say that great things about TI and we are in the sam room like you. stop lying they wont give you free memder ship for that !!!!

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#249938 Review #249938 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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TRADERS INTERNATIONAL - DISHONEST & MISLEADING

Dishonest, Misleading Presentations by Traders International Pty Ltd ABN: 60 1** 354 515 - ASIC complaints Reference Number 8244**** I have witnessed unfounded and inappropriate presentations by LACHLAN ELSWORTH of Traders International quoting "we are achieving up to...
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#2265682

Good Review. I will be getting a call from IDTA today.

Now I know what questions to ask. I will be wary

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#243686 Review #243686 is a subjective opinion of poster.
Location
Brisbane, Queensland
Loss
$10
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Avoid Traders International

Traders International are only 'analysts' and only 'marketers' who sell indicator-based systems using 'hyped' returns but provide no 'hard evidence' to backup their returns in their trading rooms. They use facebook/twitter to market what other trader's are saying 'but' they avoid/never talk about their own personal trading - because it does not exist. I personally have asked the hard questions which keep getting ignored. The CEO Afshin, Lachlan Elsworth and staff at Traders International do not all trade what they teach/preach with their own 'personal' money. They "˜collate/use/steal' ideas/screen shots from their members/other traders who email them screenshots, see what's working at the time, and then come up with systems and they take the credit for it – however Traders International moderators do "˜not' give back = they don't send their own screen shots back to their members who initially give to them. Also, Traders International will not "˜coach' you unless you fork out "˜more' money to their trading room subscription. The moderators "˜live' trade using a 'test' account, however, none of them trade with their own personal money on what they teach. Traders International do not 'walk the talk'. Do not believe the hype - ask the two most important questions you can ever ask anyone who makes 'bold' statements about returns and/or tries to sell you a product - Q1. do they actually trade what they preach? Q2. if yes, ask them to show you the evidence of all their trade's 'screen shots' and their personal 'live account statements' to confirm their "˜so-called' returns? If they do not show you this – "˜walk away' and save your hard earned money to learn from someone who actually does walk the talk and can 'show' you the evidence to backup their 'hyped' returns! I have been trading for "˜five' years my own personal signal/system which is only "˜price action' based – with "˜no' indicators because all indicators "˜lag'. Stay away from trading education companies who try to sell you a trading system with "˜indicators'. All indicators "˜lag' and there is "˜no' consistency in profit returns over the "˜long term' when trading off indicators – I know this because I have been backtesting for "˜five' years trying all sorts of indicators. "˜Price action' alone is "˜king' – when you know how to read price action "˜only' – then you will start to trade successfully and will "˜never' need to use any indicators again! Stay "˜away' from Traders International – their explanation of trading methodologies are "˜not' consistent as individual moderators "˜nor' between each other = this is usually first sign of people not walking the talk themselves when they change the rules/methodology specifics and "˜contradict' themselves on a "˜weekly' basis. There are better trading education companies out there who charge a lot 'less', are more consistent and disciplined in their trading methodolgies, and also do "˜not' charge for access to their trading rooms - however you should never 'shadow trade' from trades called by any trading room moderator - otherwise you will never become an independent trader. Do your "˜thorough' due diligence before parting with your "˜hard-earned' money!
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#656434

Any body who goes into this whether it be Traders International, or Joe Shyster's marketing scams.com thinking the money tree starts dropping 100 dollar bills bearing fruit tomorrow has no business trading options. This can pay off, but it takes patience, ambition, dedication, and yes, you have to put up some cash.

This is a good place to learn, but thats all, the rest is you. :)

#314975

I have been a Traders international member for the last 5 years and find their system, coaching and support brilliant. They continually research and improve the trades they call in the rooms on a daily basis and are very upfront and honest about the profit and losses being realised.

Personally I receive hours of coaching daily at no extra cost by being in the trading rooms. They are there to help and no matter how big or small your question is.

In June my cash return on my FOREX live account was just over 100% on capital not positions. Yesterday I had a return of 14% on capital from 2 trades.

The "avoid Traders International" post sounds like it is from somebody wanting to set up a business in opposition to Traders International. I have had a great experience with TI.

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#242820 Review #242820 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Brisbane, Queensland
Loss
$10
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Traders International fraudulent business practices

Understand if you change your mind about Traders International and decide to terminate their services they will still enforce their contract with you. They do not care what the reason. They will continue to charge even if you stop using the service. I canceled less than 30 days after joining when I realized the service they marketed wasn't what they advertized. I've filed with the BBB of Houston, the Texas Attorney General and the SEC. Also be warned these guys trade "live" on a simulator so their risk trading S&P futures is zero while yours is limitless. An extremely disatisfied consumer.
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#1093050

thanks for the info, this guy & his group promoting in Asean, KL, Spore, he promoting like as he already made many millionaires in down under ? is it true?

#604719

ok if you want sign with TIIIII aske them to inroll for free for a week to see what money they making you will find zero. Mr Tim one of the moderater always act like he never lost a trade and the funny part about it he never called one live trade in the room.

he is sick controll *** he thik he is the best shoe his trades that he never took only in his CLASS losing room. he just a funy G..

#421046

WOW, seriously? I can't write the word s t u p i d? without having it replaced with ***?

#421045

I fell for the same crooked tactics as many did back in 2009 and traders international = complete scam. Don't bother posting *** remarks like "trading is not for everyone" when that garbage company clearly lures people in by telling them they will make clear calls to buy and sell.

They do anything but that. Also, a car dealership does not misrepresent a car they are selling. What a *** comparison. I'll tell you the correct comparison: You buy a brand new car and 30 days later find out they sold you a lemon!!!!!!!

That is what traders international is to the trading community.

Stay away from this company. You have been warned!!!!!!!!

#269659

Make complaints to the SEC etc. and request a law that schools must trade a live account to prove what they are selling/teaching actually works.

Audited.

The United States BBB is ***. It is not a government agency but private, for profit to protect the businessman, who pays the BBB yearly.

#227495

I am still with TI after 3 months. I have made profit every single week for 2 months.

I know more than a few guys in the room who are trading fairly large size , 10-30cont, and they are really doing well. I guess some , like yourself, have a hard time with trading. I would say trading is not for you. Alot of us love it and are good at it.

Its not just you though, I know some others who struggle with it in the rooms.

Trading is not for everybody,, that is for sure.

GRS

#226399

I was with TI for 12 months and lost. There calls are not clear, it's always your fault if you are in a lossing trade, and the moderator does not trade live only in sim. Be prepared to loss money not make any.

#153786

So you buy a car, drive it for 20 days, then return it to the dealer and expect him to waive the contract as if it never happened?

#117780

i would LOVE to hear more Lebolanct!!! please email me more info re them

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#166376 Review #166376 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Pompano Beach, Florida
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Traders International Buyer Beware

Do not sign a contract with these people until you fully understand you will pay for everything before you will ever be able to trade live. By that time you will have paid $6000.00 for course materials and prepaid all of your trading room fees, "to protect you from losses". Magically, after you pay everything you will now be able to make $1000.00 a day. Flag number one. My own fault. I usually research before I buy. I didn't. That's what guarantees are for. The sales pitch leads you to believe otherwise. They pitch making $1000.00 a day. Playing on emotions, they are sucking a lot of people into their program at a vunerable time in their lives. Many have been laid off from work and assume they can make $1000.00 day in the mornings trading e-minis. What Afshin neglects to tell you is you won't make that money immendiately. You'll have to wait 6 months. The latter response was from other traders in the room. Flag number two. I wish he had disclosed this one fact on his "online live session". I would not have joined. The above is like paying a contractor in full for a remodel of your home only to find said contractor won't start for 6 months. And then the contractor files bankruptcy. Not the best analogy, but you get the point. The most cruel part of this situation is you call and ask them to stop charging your account and their account manager tells you "sorry we have a contract" and then literally hangs up on you. She said she didn't, but I distinctly heard the receiver. Anyway, so you're out of work and they want to still charge you trading room fees on top of 6 months trading fees paid in advance even after you plead hardship. I don't know about you but these people are heartless. Afshin never heard of negotiation where he comes from. Well my attorney and the FTC will disagree if I understand everything I've read on the matter to date. Guarantees are supposed to mean something. Pissed? Do not sign a contract with these people until you fully understand you will pay for everything before you will ever be able to trade live. By that time you will have paid $6000.00 for course materials and prepaid all of your trading room fees, "to protect you from losses". Magically, after you pay everything you will now be able to make $1000.00 a day. Flag number one. My own fault. I usually research before I buy. I didn't. That's what guarantees are for. The sales pitch leads you to believe otherwise. They pitch making $1000.00 a day. Playing on emotions, they are sucking a lot of people into their program at a vunerable time in their lives. Many have been laid off from work and assume they can make $1000.00 day in the mornings trading e-minis. What Afshin neglects to tell you is you won't make that money immendiately. You'll have to wait 6 months. The latter response was from other traders in the room. Flag number two. I wish he had disclosed this one fact on his "online live session". I would not have joined. The above is like paying a contractor in full for a remodel of your home only to find said contractor won't start for 6 months. And then the contractor files bankruptcy. Not the best analogy, but you get the point. The most cruel part of this situation is you call and ask them to stop charging your account and their account manager tells you "sorry we have a contract" and then literally hangs up on you. She said she didn't, but I distinctly heard the receiver. Anyway, so you're out of work and they want to still charge you trading room fees on top of 6 months trading fees paid in advance even after you plead hardship. I don't know about you but these people are heartless. Afshin never heard of negotiation where he comes from. Well my attorney and the FTC will disagree if I understand everything I've read on the matter to date. Pissed. Yes at myself for acting hastily. Don't follow my example.
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#1093052

thank you for the information, i m just attending his 5 days trial session ( free) accessing his so called live trades . looks like he is working "hard " to convince audience on the effective trades n making $ .

if i didn't check this out i would also get suck into this "so called making xxxx $ a day ...... hmmmm

#712923

It would seem the old adage of "if it seems too good to be true then it probably isn't" may apply here.

Seriously if these guys delivered a thousand dollars a day as guaranteed with a minimum investment then surely everyone would be doing it and no-one would go to work.

#194436

Hello all, I have been sent this article by a close friend of mine, concerned that TI is being misrepresented. TI (Australia) has a brand new management team and a very different approach to trading, and marketing! Before you write off the strategy, TI offer the opportunity for you to watch the senior trading team, trade in the live market, for FREE, for a week, over the Web. The team have done this to offer complete transparency of performance and also give you a chance to test the new signal set. Past and present TI members are loving it, so get in contact with the Aussie HQ and get into the FREE week. It will no doubt dispell some of your concerns and go along way to helping you understand why the changes are moving our traders ahead quite quickly.

(Call +61 7 **** ****).

Have a great trading day, Lachlan.

#188691

Yeah I learnt my lesson with these idiots, scam,scam,scam, there's nothing else to say but learn from our mistakes, do not even poke a stick at these dogs how low can people be and still run a business. And don't forget 21st Century for promoting this piece of ***, they too should be on the SCAM list big time.

#179530

I signed up for the Forex training 7 months ago. Aside from one bad month I have no complaints.

Without question, Erica is one of the best traders out there. I have a hard time believing some of these comments because it is opposite of what i have experienced.

SR

#166631

As it has been said many times: A SUCKER IS BORN EVERY MINUTE! I can't figure out how anyone can possibly be so *** as to think that you will actually make money with such a scam.

What are you thinking?

Are you really that foolish? You deserve what you get if you are really that ***.

#158298

My issues have been resolved with this company and I have no complaint.

#156444

Sam Dauber

#139196

But, people should buy the book called "The Art of The Trade" from bookstores or Amazon.

The hard truth is people who know how to trade don't talk and people who talk don't know how to trade.

Only 10% traders make money and they are taking money from you. It is a zero-sum game. Money from your account ends up in another trader's account.

TI is basically sucking your money before you even start trading. It's even worse. Their divergence technique is just a re-wrap public domain technique that you can learn from investopedia.com. It's like selling you how to change tires and your car's manual already tells you how to do so.

Wake up.

#132468

Hi marie. An excellent well written account of what TI really stand for.

Quite frankly, I am surprised the are still in business. I was another sucked in by the sales pitch of Peter Elsworth in Auckland New Zealand. Unfortunately it took me a year to figure out they were all BS. I think most people around the world have realised they are not traders, or genuine, but rather marketing sales people wanting their commissions.

I am thankful I only got sucked in for $5500.00 and not the ridiculous price tag of $7500.00 they charge now. Also on top of that, if you want the MACD and Stoch indicator for Ninja Trader you have a choice to pay a monthly rental or own them for ANOTHER $1000.00, plus the 250.00 US dollars per month room fee, to make absolutely nothing. There are some real horror stories in NZ and Aust with people enduring losses of anything between $5000 and one lady I know $38000.00 while trading in the Pro Room. I actually did ask Afshin in a webinar why we had to pay the extra money for the indicators.

As soon as he saw the question he said he was out of time and I never got a reply. There isnt one person that I know of in NZ or Australia that has made money with TI. As for me, I continue to trade with my own system that I have developed from other programs. The best system I have found is Top Dog Trading and is ony 1 25th of the horrendous price TI charge.

When Barry Burns decides to give a sale the price tag is only $295.00 and is a thousand times more professional with lots more information. Hope this saves people form unneccessarily losing their hard earned money.There is money to be made in trading but not with TI.

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#164935 Review #164935 is a subjective opinion of poster.
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Highland Mills, New York
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Traders International be careful

Traders International. I am pissed with Traders International, well I should say I am pissed with myself. I join on my free will on January this year lured by the promises of easy money. There is no easy money especially in trading. The system does not work. The live trading results published on the web site are inaccurate (I have got a prove) in case of so called "24/5" room. The moderator in the "pro room " makes discretionary calls and not follow "Traders International" methodology". I do not believe the whole think is worth the money. If you are in Australia please remember about time difference between down under and USA. They tell you can make money trading 1 hour a day – I do not think so. Ask them about trial even payed trial. They will probably tell that you have to learn the system first to be able to follow but as I mentioned in pro room there is no objective system. Ask them about the trading plan and carefully examine the exit criteria. The moderator in "24/5 room Rich Malcolm in mot a trader. He can not make a decision, especially about exit. He is full of "ifs, buts, maybes". In my opinion it is much better, and cheaper to by Esignal Advance Get software.
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#712467

Does Lachy trade live ? nop because he is a crook and have him to show one week only of successful trading of his bank account.

he wont trade live . he told me this in person.

#712461

Lachy tell you what you want hear and sale you dreams but keep stealing you money . thief mother ***.him and his *** Platinum class

#607527

every body if TI really good which is notas far I saw there room if they have a good St they should let new traders get in the room and watch whats the room make which nothing or minus most of day , they lie and take your money and make you lose even more money specially the AUS room with that sick Lachy

#323286

I am attending the webbinars of Traders International. I m kind of convinced with their approach of business. would any body advise me not to join them?My e-mail is afzalkhan341@***.com

#296755

Traders International are only 'analysts' and only 'marketers' who sell indicator-based systems using 'hyped' returns but provide no 'hard evidence' to back it up. They use facebook/twitter to market what others are saying 'but' they avoid/never talk about their own personal trading - because it does not exist.

I personally have asked the hard questions which keep getting ignored. The CEO Afshin, Lachlan Elsworth and staff at Traders International do not all trade what they teach/preach with their own 'personal' money. They ‘use/steal’ ideas/screen shots from their members/other traders, see what's working at the time, and then come up with systems and they take the credit for it. The moderators ‘live’ trade using a 'test' account, however, none of them trade with their own personal money on what they teach.

Traders International do not 'walk the talk'. Do not believe the hype - ask the two most important questions you can ever ask anyone who makes 'bold' statements about returns and/or tries to sell you a product - Q1. do they actually trade what they preach? Q2.

if yes, ask them to show you the evidence of all their trade’s 'screen shots' and their personal 'live account statements' to confirm their ‘so-called’ returns? If they do not show you this – ‘walk away’ and save your hard earned money to learn from someone who actually does walk the talk and can 'show' you the evidence to backup their 'hyped' returns! I have been trading for ‘five’ years my own personal signal/system which is only ‘price action’ based – with ‘no’ indicators because all indicators ‘lag’. Stay away from trading education companies who try to sell you a trading system with ‘indicators’.

All indicators ‘lag’ and there is ‘no’ consistency in profit returns over the ‘long term’ when trading off indicators – I know this because I have been backtesting for ‘five’ years trying all sorts of indicators. ‘Price action’ alone is ‘king’ – when you know how to read price action ‘only’ – then you will start to trade successfully and will ‘never’ need to use any indicators again! Stay ‘away’ from Traders International.

There are better trading education companies out there who charge a lot 'less' and also do ‘not’ charge for access to their trading rooms. Do your ‘thorough’ due diligence before parting with your ‘hard-earned’ money!

#235996

DO NOT waste your time and hard earned money on this site. One so called "moderator" cleans office building part time and another is a college student studying business, but calls the overnight trades from Europe. They MAINLY called "DS" signal trades, which is simply a slow stochastic divergence setting of around 5-3-3. They offer NO FREE TRIAL and say their signals are "proprietary", and will not divulge the settings. You have to LEASE indicators from them for another fee $49-$99, depending on your trading platform. Their other proprietary "signal" was simply a continuation, or bounce, off their (again proprietary) "T-Wave" , which is basically just simple EMA settings of 10 and 20.

The chat dialogue itself is closed so you can not see other chatters messages, believe me you wouldn't want to. The room moderators only trade in SIM and do not risk one cent of their own money.

They do not teach anything in this room, you just sit there and wait

for a signal to form. Most are for a minimal gain, 1-2 ticks, or a

full stop-out of 6 ticks. Most professionals prey on people who take

trades like these.

Hitting yourself in the head repeatedly with a hammer would be less

painful then shelling out $7,500 or more for this garbage room.

#207757

the guy that does the trade of the day is simming.

the 7k fee is a total ripoff...most of its basic technical analysis/MM.

Kazden is/was a nut case,Rich couldnt trade out of a wet paper bag. They want 7k and 3oo dollars a day for this?

I feel sorry for the Aussie ppl...data issues/time issues.

In the age of Madoff/housing crisis/ Enron the thieves just keep on coming.

#194803

Hi all, I hope that you are well. I am the Senior Trader for Traders International (Australia) and I was sent this site be a close friend.

A lot of comment here is regarding the previous management team and trading style, not the new one! The company, and its technique, has changed dramatically over the past twelve months, and the trading rooms are now available (in South East Asia) as a free trial, so you get to test the strategy in a live market prior to spending a cent. Big changes made by the Aussie team are set to address all of the above concerns. If you are a past or possible member, call the Aussie office and arrange a free trial, its FREE!

Number is +61 7 **** ****.

Have a great trading day! Lachlan Elsworth.

#117781

i have done well over a 1mm trades in the ES and I KNOW platforms and i saw their site and its on the re-play its totally FAKE!!!!!!! anyone tht buys this withoput seeing a REAL audit is a sucker! and deserves to LOSE all their $$$ lol

#112291

I am not a TI member but am interested in becoming one. By attending their live trade presentation a few times, I must say that it cannot be faked. The ticker and range that they are trading on the sessions are exactly what is shown on the live market on S&P. I am curious on why one comment said it is "simulated". Besides, they would be shut down by now particularly by some of those very rigid countries. Besides, their trading room is live 21 hours per day. How would that be faked once somebody sign up and would attend for 21 hours, if you have the energy? I am asking this honest question because some of those negative comments do not seem credible?

I was on their e-mini session about 3 times, one day they did not have a good day and they agreed as so. One day, they capture profit in 15 minutes. I was in their FX session only once but their results are posted day by day. Again, how can somebody make false results given so many people are in their trading room?

Of course, maybe this is a "pissedconsumer" site so it may not attract the real members who are happy but I hope somebody give clarification.

Thanks.

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